Which Chinese Ideology...

10/7/2016

Due by Friday 10.14
Which political ideology would be best used in ruling modern-day Iraq?

Athenian Democracy
Roman Republic
Chinese Confucianism
Chinese Legalism

Robert Donoghue

10/10/2016 06:10:27 pm

A Roman Republic style of governance would best suit modern-day Iraq.

If restrictions were put in place to keep the split of government between Sunni and Shiites equal, neither could suppress the other. This was the problem with Saddam, as he oppressed Shiites. Following his rule, the opposite happened with Shiites oppressing Sunnis. Both could be avoided with a representative government and a balance of both versions of Islam.

aubry Alexander

10/12/2016 07:14:12 pm

In modern day Iraq, Chinese Confucianism would be best to rule because they're very different. This would benefit Iraq because the Chinese are big on wisdom; in Chinese confucinism, they treat their inferiors and people of less importance, with respect and if Iraq did this, it would be a better society.

Fatima Oliva

10/19/2016 05:34:42 pm

I agree that if Iraq respected their minorities it would be a much better society; however, Confucianism's nonreligious character would avoid one of the major problems in Iraq which is the conflict between the Sunni and Shiite. The Sunni and Shiite wouldn't agree with their government's ideology and would cause even more conflict between the government and its people.

Mr. Sherer

10/31/2016 01:25:44 pm

That line about "they're very different" is slightly troubling.

Rachel Perez

10/13/2016 08:24:20 pm

The best political ideology for ruling modern-day Iraq would be Chinese Confucianism because, as of now, Iraq is a democratic republic, and their views are not aiding in the resolutions of the conflicts occurring in their current society. Confucianism lasted longer than the Athenian Democracy, the Roman Republic, and Chinese Legalism combined; therefore it allows Confucianism to be held at a much higher, stronger, and longer power that may aid in bringing peace and unity within their own country, as well as others.

Angela L.

10/20/2016 12:04:55 am

I do agree with your accurate information on fact that Confucianism held China longer than any other religion, but I also think they idea of superior played a big role in keeping China united for such a long time as well, because the superior was chosen due to his ability and knowledge, thus he is more supported by the people. If the superior ruler is respected by his follower than there will be less conflict or inner rebellion unlike Iraq; which makes the Chinese Confucianism the best political system for modern-day Iraq.

Crystal Guiao

10/13/2016 11:23:04 pm

The Roman Republic would be best used in ruling modern-day Iraq. Similarly, power resides within the elected individuals who are chosen by their state's citizens; also, they abide to an ultimate leader who possesses the authority amongst their government. In essence, both governments practice a form of legislature, in order to make laws for the entities in their country.

Konnor Kost

10/14/2016 12:23:25 pm

I think the Roman Republic would be best for the current day Iraq because of the separations of class and religions, such as Sunni and Shiite Muslim and in Rome's case Patricians and Plebians by having a government system controlled by the patricians,with aspects of plebeian say for a good government system of the differentiating views by the different views by these two Muslim groups. It would allow a equal say by both groups to maintain the state, and that both groups would by important to Iraq and can be maintained together in the state.

Iris T.

10/14/2016 03:47:44 pm

I think the Roman Republic would best work for modern-day Iraq, because the problem is that there's a minority group that is being oppressed and this causes a lot of violence. So if we allow the minority to have some say, chances to veto a law harmful to them, or be represented in political events it could provide protection and stop the oppression of the minority.

Erik Larson

10/20/2016 06:32:31 pm

I disagree because, in a republic, majority rules. The plebian class of Iraq would get some say, but this say would be dominated by the Shiites as they are the overwhelming majority. I believe this political system would simply be a shortcut to a total Sunni rebellion.

Fatima Oliva

10/14/2016 05:26:50 pm

The Roman Republic's political ideology would be best at ruling modern-day Iraq, because it allows lower classes to veto laws that might oppress them. In Iraq, Sunni Muslims are underrepresented in the government and don't have the same power as Shiites. Having a republic would help prevent one group having too much power and the other too little.

Julianna Jacinto

10/14/2016 08:36:11 pm

The best ideology used in ruling modern Iraq would be Chinese Legalism, like the Chinese, Legalism provided them reunification by strictly enforcing laws and punishments to have order. Although Chinese Confucianism would work too, but it would go against the Legalism law, as it focuses more on individualism. As of now, modern Iraq has a ruling similar to Chinese Legalism and Athenian Democracy, they all have opinions on their government but not enough to unify them to have one common goal for their country.

Konnor Kost

10/20/2016 01:27:43 pm

Although Legalism could set strict codes of conduct for modern Iraq, I don't think Legalism would go well among the different branches of Muslims and there could be conflict within Iraq because of these policies and couldn't incoperate both religions. I believe Roman Republic would be better at incorporating both religions in that they can both be represented rather than strict codes that could cause conflict between the branches of religion in Iraq.

Kasandra Mange

10/14/2016 09:15:31 pm

The political ideology that would best be represented in modern-day Iraq would be Chinese Legalism. The way they punished people resembles the way that they do today. They are really strict, and make people scared about committing crimes in order for them not to make the actions.

Crystal Guiao

10/19/2016 10:19:03 pm

Although Legalism could potentially unify Iraq's government with their harsh system of conduct, these brutal tactics had caused a fragmentation amongst China's society, for they did not confine to any form of flexibility, which resulted in a major revolt and had overthrown this ideology altogether. Likewise, this lack of privilege in this totalitarian society would not necessarily correspond to Iraq's form of parliamentary democracy.

Eunice Gonzalez

10/20/2016 11:04:24 pm

Although legalism could work as a way of power over the people it would ensue a lot of fear on the citizens and the punishments of legalism are harsh. I think the Roman Republic would be a better fit due to it giving the people at least some say in laws while legalism would not consider their opinion at all.

Mr. Sherer

10/31/2016 01:31:16 pm

LOT's of pronouns used Kasandra...

Erik Larson

10/14/2016 09:29:07 pm

I believe that of the listed political ideologies, Chinese Confucianism would be best fit in ruling modern day Iraq. This is for many reasons; the first being its location. Iraq directly borders six different countries. This means that they must have a large influx of immigrants every year. Seeing as to how Confucian teachings do not include a strong sense of citizenship, this would be perfect for creating a non-racist, melting pot-esk society. On top of that, Confucianism focuses very little on religion, which is a very troubling topic not just in Iraq but in the current middle-east as a whole. Confucianism seems to keep conflicts to a minimum, and I would assume that would do a pretty good job at ruling the modern day Republic of Iraq.

Robert Donoghue

10/19/2016 12:44:03 pm

Chinese Confucianism, as you said focuses little on religion, but would avoid the larger issue of religion in reality. This of course would still allow a larger Shia Islam to ethnically cleanse the Sunni, as superior overshoadows the inferior in Confucianism.

Mr. Sherer

10/31/2016 01:34:26 pm

Touche Robert, touche

Efrain

10/21/2016 10:07:14 pm

Although Chinese Legalism can be a good ideology with little focus on religion of Confucianism, it is not seen very well in my view. Since there can be huge the conflict between the Sunni's and Shia this cannot happened since it would wipe out the whole ethnic.

Mikayla Harris

10/14/2016 09:49:11 pm

I think that the modern day Iraq government is most like the Chinese Confucianism ideology, mainly because in modern day Iraq they are strictly patriarchal and have specific gender roles much like the Chinese Confucionist ideology had.

Nicholas B.

10/19/2016 02:44:30 pm

I agree that Chinese Confucianism would be the best choice for ruling modern day Iraq, however I think the reason for this is because it would help maintain order as it did in China and it would help to to unify Iraq as it unified China's warring states, not because they both have specific gender roles.

Trace K.

10/14/2016 09:53:44 pm

The Roman Republic would be the best fit of a political ideology used in ruling modern-day Iraq. Iraq has been trying to unite as a country for several years. They are trying to be much more passive but they also are having trouble with their leaders and who is elected. In the Roman Republic two leaders are chosen annually and they are chosen by the citizens. This allows the leaders to not abuse their powers because they could be persecuted. The leaders chosen often practiced peace in war. They would have a strong military but refused to fight with other countries or city-states unless absolutely necessary. These two parts of the Roman Republic would be extremely beneficial for the modern-day Iraq. That is why the Roman Republic would be the best fit of a political ideology used in ruling modern-day Iraq.

Angela L

10/20/2016 12:16:27 am

The Roman Republic might work the modern-day Iraq, but as the way mentioned by Trace it would not be possible. As mention by Trace the Iraqi are separated, but more specifically as Sunni and Shiites, which have two different yet similar belief system causing the two to go against each other because they do not support each others' religion. If two leaders are elected than obviously the Sunni will support the Sunni leader while the Shiites does the same for their leader. If both is elected from the same group than of course the other won't be happy with because the feeling of mistreatment and inqeuality. As mentioned the Iraqis needs unity, thus why they need one leader and become one nation instead of two leaders and two separate groups.

Kristopher arpero

10/14/2016 10:44:52 pm

The Roman Republic political ideology would be the best fit for modern-day Iraq. This is so because the Romans' civilization lasted for a long time ( 509-27 B.C.E.), also if modern-day Iraq were to be a republic there would not be any large scale disagreements about religion or anything political. Due to a republic having some natures of democracy in it the civilians would choose what they want or at least have a slight say in a matter of that sort.

Angela L.

10/14/2016 10:57:53 pm

The best political ideology for mordern-day Iraq is Chinese Confucianism. Both China and Iraq is a patriarchy society, but the Chinese are more united as a country and is not in constant civil ward due to the teachings of Confucianism. Confucianism as a political ideology kept the Chinese as a whole for thousands of years, so the best ideology for the modern-day Iraq is Confucianism which apply to mainly patriarchy society and is a long lasting method.

Iris T.

10/20/2016 03:52:39 pm

Although China and Iraq are both patriarchial states, patriarchy isn't the only problem in modern day Iraq. The problem is the lack of representation of the Sunnis, and oppression by the Shiites. Chinese Confucianism still puts emphasis on submissive and superior relationships, so it wouldn't really help relieve any tension.

Angelena Faucher

10/14/2016 11:06:51 pm

Chinese legalism is the best for ruling modern-day Iraq. Iraq is on a rampage of war and battle (ISIS). I believe that the strict political doctrine of Chinese legalism would be able to control Iraq overall. It's forceful rules on restoring public order is something that is needed to maintain rule.

Zenaya W

10/19/2016 09:52:02 pm

Legalism does have strict rules that could assist in the stopping of ISIS, yet its concept may not be suitable for the citizens of modern day Iraq due to its brutal punishments. Legalism also degrades humans according to the pessimistic view on human nature that is associated with it.

Enedina Rothmeyer

10/20/2016 10:34:11 pm

While i see where your point of view is, and i agree that legalism CAN hold some type of control, i dont think it would work in Iraqs case, because legalism instills fear into the people, and fear can make (especially lower class , poor people) people act out or revolt in some way.

Trace K.

10/20/2016 11:49:58 pm

I understand what you mean when you say that Chinese Legalism would have a forceful control over Iraq but the rule in general is too aggressive. You brought up how Iraq is in a hostile place and a way to make things more hostile is if you fight back with forceful laws. It would not help their society at all. For a matter a fact, it may damage the society as a whole. Chinese Legalism is belligerent and may trigger an even more hostile environment. There is also no real leader to lead the charge for Chinese Legalism in Iraq. The Roman Republic would be a perfect fit for Iraq. It may bring leaders into question. They would elect two and reelect annually. It also lets the upper class give their opinions while also letting the lower class share their opinions even though their's may not be accounted for. It allows the community to have law, leaders, and order without making everything even more hostile.

Aubry alexander

10/24/2016 04:45:49 pm

I agree that Chinese legalism would be good for Iraq but not modern day Iraq because legalism would only make the society worse by causing uprisings and weakening the communities feelings of trust and safety by making the people of Iraq fearful due to the harsh punishments.

Angelena Faucher

10/25/2016 01:39:54 pm

Although Chinese Legalism has the political doctrine and structure to sustain itself, it's not the correct ruling for modern day Iraq. I do agree that Iraq is under "a rampage of war and battle (ISIS)" but an even harsher enforcement would break down society overall. Legalism degrades human beings and their beliefs; which would only strengthen the dilemmas in modern day Iraq. While Roman Republic would give every individual the rights to have their notions presented, discarding many political issues.

Mr. Sherer

10/31/2016 01:40:13 pm

So you are flip-flopping!

Saphyna Danh

10/15/2016 04:52:41 am

I would say that the Roman Republic would be the best political ideology for ruling modern-day Iraq because it seems as though there has been a large amount of anger, leading to large a large amount of protesting in Iraq, which the Roman Republic could possibly be able to decrease both.The reason that the people of Iraq are angry and protesting is because their voices are not being heard, figuratively, so in order to solve that, the Roman Republic would actually give those people a voice/say through voting and/or through a political figure.

Rachel Perez

10/20/2016 08:21:24 pm

Although I see why the Roman Republic would be a good choice for modern-day Iraq, from your perspective, I respectively disagree. The republican view would only cause more damage than good as the "power" of the people would only fall back on the person leading them. The changes that the people want would only be granted if their leader -as well as the people working behind them- would hear what they had to say. The power would only lie in the hands of the people momentarily and in the end it may cause more issues.

Nicholas B.

10/15/2016 02:40:59 pm

Chinese Confucianism would be best used in ruling modern-day Iraq because it was used in ruling China and was successful in unifying China's warring states, therefore it would help to unify Iraq and would be the most useful in maintaining order.

Kasandra Mange

10/20/2016 04:17:39 pm

Although Chinese Confucianism would be great to explain Iraq's political ideology, it doesn't focus on the problems they face. Chinese Confucianism focuses on the morals of the people which is what Iraq needs, but in reality there is much violence going on. The people would be better off having a say in the political problems before being unified or having order.

Mikayla Harris

10/20/2016 08:36:45 pm

I agree that Chinese Confucianism would best describe Iraq's modern day government but I believe that while the unification of the warring states is very important , it is also important to recognize the inequality faced by some of the people in Iraq. Especially towards woman in this highly patriarchal government.

Efrain

10/15/2016 03:40:17 pm

In the present day of Iraq, much of past history has occurred in the spam of time; especially types of governments, I would consider Iraq as a Roman Republic, for a reason that lower classes in the country don't have a saying and is called by the king, like modern day Iraq; making this a very strong way of controlling a city. However, this will eventually fall from rebellious acts and such.

Diane Rizo

10/20/2016 10:22:16 pm

Although I agree with you that the Roman Republic would be if not the best a well-thought out political ideology for reunification of modern-day Iraq, i disagree with your reasoning because while the elite class has the final say in what is established, the low classes have a small effect or at least are given the sense that they have a small effect on the decision chosen. Thus, the Roman Republic ideology would make " everyone happy " in a false sense rather than leading to rebellious acts. In comparing this to modern day iraq, the Sunni's would feel less as the minority and less opressed making them satisfied. The Shiites would be joyfully free to have the final say with out the protests of the Sunnis. Though it seems unfair and cynical in our perspective, everyone is united as a whole and joyous.

kaya c

10/15/2016 05:21:53 pm

roman republic

Hana D

10/15/2016 05:27:22 pm

I think that a good political ideology for present day Iraq would be the Roman Republic because it would give them a structure to their society and keep it running smoothy.

Daryl Galindo

10/20/2016 08:55:28 pm

Three of the political systems wound work although the most fitting political system of my opinion would be Chinese Confucianism because modern Iraq already has a federal republic and democracy just a few changes or actual improvements from Athenian Democracy and Roman Republic. Both aren't working, so best choice is Chinese Confucianism. And Legalism wont even work at all because Iraq is already stress enough.

Sarah

10/15/2016 11:49:11 pm

In the middle eastern country of Iraq, the Roman Republic would be best used in ruling modern-day Iraq for many reasons, including the fact that it's already considered a democratic/republic region. The Roman Republic worked by having the upper class vote while giving the underclass the impression that they had an impact on the decisions, Iraq has the parliament vote, but this idea gives some the sense that they're not being represented. Roman Republic would be able to stabilize some sense of instability in the government, by not having to change as many aspects as you would if you converted to legalism..

My other idea would be legalism, to quickly unify the region, but there are many issues such as under-representation, who would lead the movement,, but it was just a thought.

kaitlyn V

10/16/2016 06:05:00 pm

Confucianism would be a preferable choice for modern day Iraq. In theory if their superior’s attitude was great and if they were a benevolent ruler then the people would gladly follow the rules and be more obedient. A majority of the Confucian beliefs are very similar to modern day Iraq’s so the change wouldn’t be that drastic, yet the things that need to change would change.

Diane Rizo

10/20/2016 10:39:42 pm

Although Confucius ideology is a happily ever after concept involving "treating others the way you want to be treated," it does not tackle the universal problems in Iraq that our human evolution has faced with the start of the Agricultural Revolution which is inequality. This being because there will always be a minority satisfying the desires of the elite group and making it once again almost impossible for equal status or reputation among the two groups. Thus Confucianism would only improve morals instead of dividing possessions, status, and work equally between the two groups.

In general, Confucianism would yesake a positive change in Iraq but compared to other political ideologies such as the Roman Republic, the change would be too little to solve the most destructive problems of Iraq.

Desiree' Choate

10/16/2016 10:55:23 pm

Modern day Iraq, would be best ruled by Chinese Confucianism because is very patriarchal. Confucius wanted the husbands and the heads of housholds to treat there families well. The superiors to respect their inferiors and this would create peace. Considering that men rule everything in Iraq, if they could be good to their wife's and simply show courtesy to all, life in Iraq would be much more pleasant.

Sarah

10/23/2016 05:52:39 pm

Although Confucianism would change the main focus to be empathy, the bases of Iraq is religion. The turmoil and uneasiness in the region is caused by inequality, and differences caused by religion; so Confucianism would ignore that main issue and sweep it under the rug instead of dealing with it. The republic however, has a representative government, and a constitution, giving everyone a sense of representation and a solid basis of rules no matter what your religion.

Eunice Gonzalez

10/17/2016 11:43:22 pm

The goverment system that I chose would be the Roman Republic. It would help unify Iraq and create a strong centralized goverment. It would also let the citizens choose higher officials who would then make decisions for the whole country.

Julianna Jacinto

10/20/2016 07:40:07 pm

Chinese Confucianism would work but not as much as Chinese Legalism, even though Chinese confucianism focuses on superiority of each person in the family and individualism, it would still create conflict on modern day Iraq as they are not unified as one country. It would creat conflict between the people of their republic and the government itself. Whereas, Chinese Legalism would help them work towards a certain goal on reunifying their country.

Julianna Jacinto

10/20/2016 08:23:33 pm

^sorry this reply was for Desiree

Zenaya W.

10/18/2016 11:01:42 pm

In modern day Iraq, the Roman Republic ideology would best be used in ruling modern day Iraq due to its homogeneous features;both have a house of representatives and a constitution. Yet it also helps citizens have a say on subjects through veto on topics that they might have a problem with, this aspect is needed between the Sunny and the Shiites.

Cameron Gaddi

10/19/2016 09:24:47 pm

The points previously stated are true, however, the roman republic fell because of the turmoil by the poor which makes up a majority of the population. With the terrorists changing their laws to conform to their own agenda it would be tedious to get anyone to agree on anything. By setting a code that caters to religious and social aspects it would allow social harmony rather than people constantly debating on who has their God backing them up.

Cameron Gaddi

10/19/2016 09:16:45 pm

The optimal style of government for present day iraq would be confucianism. With the turmoil among the people with their mixed ideologies it would suit them to get a code to live by so the conflict will be kept to a minimum

Saphyna Danh

10/20/2016 06:28:52 pm

Although living by a code may decrease the amount of conflict in present day Iraq, Confucianism may not be entirely helpful, given the situation. Confucianism is mostly non-religion based, which wouldn't be helpful, since large amounts of their conflict do revolve around the subject of religion. Another aspect would be the large amounts of protesting in Iraq. With Confucianism comes the superiority of men, who will most likely just try to suppress those who are protesting. To furthermore elaborate, continuing to suppress those who have already been suppressed will lead to an eventual rebellion.

Enedina Rothmeyer

10/20/2016 10:19:35 pm

I believe that the ROMAN REPUBLIC ideology would be best in ruling modern day Iraq.The Republic gives the people in middle and lower classes a sense of having a say in what goes on, and it would give Iraq a more structured political system. all in all it gives the "smarter" officials the ability to make the right decisions and gives the lower classes the ability to contribute to society.

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